IF THEY CAN GET YOU ASKING THE WRONG QUESTIONS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE ANSWERS.
Thomas Pynchon







It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble.   It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
Mark  Twain










Gen. Smedly Butler

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler







“I spent 33 years...being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers.  In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism...   I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909 - 1912.   I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1916.   I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916.   I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the rape of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street...   Looking back on it, I feel I might have given Al Capone a few hints.   The best he could do was to operate his racket in three city districts.  We Marines operated on three continents.”
General Smedly Butler, 2 time Medal of Honor recipient.








































Gen. Smedly Butler Addresses The Bonus Army





THE GULF OF TONKIN INCIDENT WAS THE TRIGGER FOR THE "WAR" IN VIET NAM


UPI ARCHIVES OCT. 13, 1984
Navy officer disputes second Tonkin Gulf Attack
By RICHARD M. HARNETT

SAN FRANCISCO  --  The reported 'second' attack on U.S. ships in the Tonkin Gulf, which President Lyndon Johnson used to escalate American participation in the Vietnam War, did not take place, according to a new account by one of the pilots who was there.



Adm. James B. Stockdale

    Retired Adm. James B. Stockdale, who spent 7 years in a North Vietnamese prison, contends that Navy pilots sent out to attack the reported enemy PT boats the night of Aug. 4, 1964, found no boats anywhere near the American vessels.

    There was a real attack by enemy boats against the destroyers Maddox and Turner Joy two days earlier, on Aug. 2, Stockdale says, but the report of a second attack Aug. 4 was a false alarm.

    After spending 90 minutes in the air trying to find the attacking boats and later studying radio communications from the ships and alleged intercepts of Vietnamese radio communications, Stockdale concluded there were 'no boats' active against U.S. ships that night.

    Stockdale said that during and after the reported Aug. 4 incident, Washington ignored communications that cast doubt on it.   He says the Pentagon confused the incidents of Aug. 2 and Aug. 4.

    On Aug. 5, 1964, Johnson ordered the Navy to attack mainland bases from which the North Vietnamese boats reportedly attacked the Turner Joy and the Maddox.   A few days later Congress passed the Tonkin Gulf resolution, which led to heavy American involvement in the war.

    'A generation of young Americans would get left holding the bag,' Stockdale wrote in his memoirs 'In Love & War' co-authored with his wife, Sybil, and recently published by Harper & Row.

    Stockdale became the most highly decorated officer in the Navy, and his wife, who led efforts in the United States to win better treatment for the prisoners in Vietnam, is the only wife of an active-duty officer to receive the Navy's Distinguished Public Service Award.

    Stockdale said that after the Johnson administration made its decision to attack Vietnam on the basis of a false report, Washington later had 'second thoughts,' which resulted in 'the guilt, the remorse, the tentativeness, the changes of heart, the backout' that cast a dark shadow over the whole war.

    On Aug. 2, 1964, there had been a real attack by communist PT boats against the Maddox, and Navy fighters from the Ticonderoga counterattacked -- destroying one boat and damaging two others.   Stockdale participated in that raid and now believes this incident of Aug. 2 got confused in Washington with the false alarm two days later.

    On Aug. 5, the day after the 'second attack' that didn't take place, Stockdale says he was awakened early aboard the carrier to lead a 'reprisal' raid ordered by the president against the Vietnamese coastal ports.

    'I felt like I had been doused with ice water,' Stockdale relates.   'How do I get in touch with the president?   He's going off half-cocked,' wrote Stockdale.

    'The fact that a war was being conceived out here in the humid muck of the Tonkin Gulf didn't bother me so much;  it seemed obvious that a tinderbox situation prevailed here and that there would be war in due course anyway.   But for the long pull it seemed to me important that the grounds for entering war be legitimate.   I felt it was a bad portent that we seemed to be under the control of a mindless Washington bureaucracy, vain enough to pick their own legitimacies regardless of evidence.'

    Stockdale cited 1967 congressional hearings to show that Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara was confused about what happened in the Tonkin Gulf.

    'As the only person in the world who had a good first-hand look at both the episode of the 2nd and the episode of the 4th, I cannot avoid the conclusion that McNamara wound up using August 2nd material when analyzing events of the 4th.   I know this sounds like a simple and tragic way to commit a nation to war, but that's the way I read it.

    'Recorded replays of action reports of the August 2nd fracas, or after-action summaries of that actual PT boat-destroyer confrontation transmitted later, got into the August 4th file in the Pentagon.'

    Stockdale, a senior fellow of the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, was shot down over North Vietnam Sept. 9, 1965, and held prisoner in the 'Hanoi Hilton' until Feb. 12, 1973.   He suffered repeated torture but nevertheless organized an underground among American prisoners to maintain discipline and resist the enemy.

    The book by Stockdale and his wife is an account of their separate yet shared ordeals while Stockdale was in the hands of the Vietnamese.
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1984/10/13/Navy-officer-disputes-second-Tonkin-Gulf-ttack/4813466488000/









KENT St. 1970, NATIONAL GUARD TROOPS KILL UNARMED STUDENTS PROTESTING WAR IN VIET NAM





    








Ohio

Neil Young

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.

Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are cutting us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are cutting us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.
Four dead in Ohio (Four dead)
Four dead in Ohio (Four)
Four dead in Ohio (How many?)
Four dead in Ohio (How many more?)
Four dead in Ohio (Why?)
Four dead in Ohio (Oh!)
Four dead in Ohio (Four)
Four dead in Ohio (Why?)
Four dead in Ohio (Why?)





























       




THE LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT WAR,
THE LINE OF PROSPECTIVE MURDERERS WERE DOING THE BIDDING
OF THOSE PROFITTING FROM WAR










Feel Like I'm Fixin To Die Rag
Country Joe & The Fish
Woodstock, 1969









Jackson-Kent Blues

The Steve Miller Band


I was down in Nashville just payin' my dues
Headed for Ohio when I read the news
'Bout the people demonstrating 'gainst the President's views
Four were shot down by the National Guard troops
Just like Uncle Sam I put on my fighting shoes
School shot down cause there's no more to lose
Now we're headed to D.C. two by twos
Cause those low down, profound, killin' four blues

Lookin' for my Congressman to make it well known
But the politicians already won't answer his telephone
Making in his office while they're shooting kids down at home
Worried about the voters but he won't be worried long

Silent majority still glued to the tube
Say CIA ain't lookin', FBI come unglued
Shot some more in Jackson just to show the world what they can do
While we're marching to D.C. cause there's too much to do

Give peace a chance
Give peace a chance
There's no turnin' back my friend
There's no turnin' back

When the President said that the tear gas is gone
The army's pulled out leavin' blood on the ground
The streets are empty and the crying's died down
You can be President if no one's around
Just like Kow Kow, you've heard it before
Get back gangster, don't you open that door
Space Cowboy's back to tell you the score
Nothing any good is gonna come from a war
Got those low down, profound, killin' four blues

Give peace a chance
Give peace a chance
Give peace a chance
























     






THE MOTHER HOLDING THE BABY
IS THE LITTLE GIRL RUNNING NAKED AFTER BEING NAPALMED
BY THE US MILITARY IN VIET NAM